SonicWorx Studio Version 1.0 ( German )

[MFPhouse]

hi Stephan M. Sprenger ( Bernsee ? ),

habe hier grade ein altes SonicWorx Studio Version 1.0 auf einem PPC 8100 7.6/8.6 laufen.

Kann es sein das viele der Algorithmen erst richtig bei normalisierten AudioDateien "greifen" bzw wirkung zeigen ?
Oder anders formuliert, viele der special Parameter ( Morph Rendering levels etc ) zeigen ihre volle wirkung erst wenn das grund Sample Material viel information besitzt?

Gruß
Michael

[tahome]

Sorry, I believe this forum is in English only.

Not sure if this helps with your question as I'm not sure I fully understand it, but why don't you upgrade to the latest 2.5 (or was it 2.6) version to begin with? It's a free download these days and gets rid of the dongle...

Cheers
--th

[MFPhouse]

Yes , it was the last free Edition. I just wrote what was written on the Label.Here, SonicWorx Studio Version 1.0
So, don´t know , what and where to upgrade/update.

Anyway, still talking about the Algorithmen ( Rendering Levels/ Parameters).
It seems to be that they work better with Material wich is "normalized " and has lot of Information ( like full aktiviy on the whole Frequence Spekrum ).

There are a few Questions about the different Parameters.

ByTheWay: Do you know if there are still n Manual out there ? PDF ?

[neuronaut]

Hi Michael,

thank you for your interest in sonicWORX. There seems to be some confusion as sonicWORX Studio never actually had the sound design algorihms that you're referring to, and it was never free. You must be referring to either PowerBundle or Artist in its latest incarnation.

You can download the latest installer (including the manual) from here:

http://neuron.audiodsp.net/swpb260f.hqx

Level normalization has no effect on the rendering parameters, but the complexity of the input signal(s) does. Harmonically complex signals with a rich spectrum tend to produce best results while simple harmonic waveforms are usually not quite as impressive. This has to do with the way the human auditory system perceives structure in sound - more complex mixes present more cues to our ear that are used in the morph which makes this type of sound manipulaton more dramatic for that kind of signal.

If you have any other questions we're here to help and would be happy to answer them for you.

Best wishes
Stephan Bernsee (formerly Sprenger, which was my name before I got married)

[MFPhouse]

hi Stephan,
and thanks for the download Link. Unfortunately came after pressing the Installer button some Registration/Register Fields , wich still needs some data to fullfill.
Don´t know. Can´t install this.

Backround of all this is, i build up a second Studio since a few Months, and called it Retro-Studio.
Basic is an old Nubus Protools with an old PPC 8100 ( NubussChassis and Samplecells etc ) under Logic 3.5. And all this Software wich came up with this in the 80/90 . TurboSynth , Alchemy , Infinitiy etc etc .
So , i think SonicWorx is a must have in this Setup.
Would be very interested to get SonicWorx getting started in this Setup.
...and shurly to get work with it.
If i am in the workprozess , i be shure a have a lot of Question !

First know.
I Tryed already from the old one the DSP Realtiem Main Page .
I had some crackle in the Audioput.( SoundManager- Digidesigne -888 ) Shure, the Realtime Engine need CPU Power, but perhaps you have some Tipps for Optimizing.
The Setup is . 8100 with Maxpowr G3 ( don´t know ) maybe 266? / OS 7.6.1. OS8.6 is also avaible , but it seems to be that all the other Software runs fine on 7.6.1. Logic etc.

The other thing is that if you are ready with the Realtime Prozessing and you Rendered into the Audiofile he made every 1min -/+ a cut. "Blob".
Sound´s like litte Bad Faded Cut .
It looks like the Algorythm made some Caches every 10Mb ? or something like that ?
The Harddisks i work with, are fresh and Clean formated. But ! They hang at the Protools SCSI ( Interface ) Bus.
All Audio Data are Extern at the ScSi from the Chassis. It is better to work with the Internat ScSi Buss from the Mac ?

So, more Question came next time.
Thank´s Michael

PS: I still remembered that we have a Phonecall years ago ( early 90´) , you was/worked in Hamburg / Hannover ? That´s why i still wrote to "Mr. Sprenger".
Anyway , i found you again. Nice to meet you here !

[neuronaut]

Unfortunately came after pressing the Installer button some Registration/Register Fields , wich still needs some data to fullfill.
Don´t know. Can´t install this.

Try SWB2-950707868638-IG as serial number. The other fields don't matter.

Backround of all this is, i build up a second Studio since a few Months, and called it Retro-Studio.
Basic is an old Nubus Protools with an old PPC 8100 ( NubussChassis and Samplecells etc ) under Logic 3.5. And all this Software wich came up with this in the 80/90 . TurboSynth , Alchemy , Infinitiy etc etc .

Interesting. Is there a particular reason why you're doing this?

So , i think SonicWorx is a must have in this Setup.
Would be very interested to get SonicWorx getting started in this Setup.
...and shurly to get work with it.
If i am in the workprozess , i be shure a have a lot of Question !

Sure. Make sure you read the manual first as a lot of the common questions are answered there and I'm not sure that I remember all the details - it's been quite a while.

I had some crackle in the Audioput.( SoundManager- Digidesigne -888 ) Shure, the Realtime Engine need CPU Power, but perhaps you have some Tipps for Optimizing.
The Setup is . 8100 with Maxpowr G3 ( don´t know ) maybe 266? / OS 7.6.1. OS8.6 is also avaible , but it seems to be that all the other Software runs fine on 7.6.1. Logic etc.

The OS we recommend for SwRx 2.6 is MacOS 9.2.2. We never got the Digidesign hardware to work properly on earlier systems - I don't recall which version of the System Init and Digidesign I/O you needed for it to work as they were all flakey at best. Digidesign system extensions were well known to cause all sorts of problems on MacOS 7 and 8 (and 9), so good luck I seem to remember that using the ASIO driver worked better, but like I said, it's been a while.

The other thing is that if you are ready with the Realtime Prozessing and you Rendered into the Audiofile he made every 1min -/+ a cut. "Blob".
Sound´s like litte Bad Faded Cut .
It looks like the Algorythm made some Caches every 10Mb ? or something like that ?

I never heard of this problem and I never experienced this when I worked with sonicWORX, sorry... I'm afraid I don't know the answer to this.

PS: I still remembered that we have a Phonecall years ago ( early 90´) , you was/worked in Hamburg / Hannover ? That´s why i still wrote to "Mr. Sprenger".

No I believe you must be thinking of someone else - I never worked in northern Germany (way too cold and rainy for my taste ).

Best wishes
--smb

[MFPhouse]

Interesting. Is there a particular reason why you're doing this?

oh yes, many.
First of all i get this Setup very cheap and in a very very good condition.
Full Digidesign NuBus Expansion Chassis (12 Slot) with DSP FarmCards and SampleCells etc
It´s also a little bit of fun...to have this Stuff here now , wich cost in the 80/90 Hundred thousands and more in this constilation i have yet.

But the importend Point for me is.
You can go with a Guitar in the 888- through a Plug - than again out-through an external FX OutboardHardware - back 888 again through some Plugs and all this with recording to several Track with negligible latency !. Even if you set the PufferSize to 64/32 at the new Maschines&Interfaces...it´s not the same feel/touch for me.


Shure , i have also a new Setup running . IntelMac with Logic and all this Stuff.

But the Retro-Studio is like having an old Rolls-Royce SilverCloud ...in White for me.

Anyway, it is fun to work this for me. Also the workflow under OS7.6 is very fresh for me....i am not a Fan of the new OSX ( Politk ).

The OS we recommend for SwRx 2.6 is MacOS 9.2.2. We never got the Digidesign hardware to work properly on earlier systems - I don't recall which version of the System Init and Digidesign I/O you needed for it to work as they were all flakey at best. Digidesign system extensions were well known to cause all sorts of problems on MacOS 7 and 8 (and 9), so good luck I seem to remember that using the ASIO driver worked better, but like I said, it's been a while.

Yep, i tryed several Sounddriver Manager Asio and DigiDriver.....no chance at all.
I go back th Worx 1.0 ...this is fine ! Also the Realtime Window. Only here and there some Crackle.
I think i built up an external Mastering Suite, with a PCI based ( maye PPC 9600 ). Better G3 ? What to you mean ? I think G4 was the latest with OS9 but only emulated and Incompatible with Sonix 2.6.?
I need this also for a Network/Filetransfer to the other Maschines. - Intel etc . At this Moment i have to burn , even for the Sonic2.6 Aktion , permanently Cd´r. MY Trash is full of burned Cdr with just a few kb on it .

No I believe you must be thinking of someone else -

oh , this is Very interesting , so we have two Boys who named Sprenger and programmed SonicWorx.
Was nice to have had a telephone conversation with your twin brother

I never worked in northern Germany (way too cold and rainy for my taste ).

Yes , that is for shure.
Michael

[neuronaut]

...Anyway, it is fun to work this for me. Also the workflow under OS7.6 is very fresh for me....i am not a Fan of the new OSX ( Politk ).

Interesting... I also liked OS 9 a lot but to be honest one thing I don't miss are the crashes...

I think i built up an external Mastering Suite, with a PCI based ( maye PPC 9600 ). Better G3 ? What to you mean ? I think G4 was the latest with OS9 but only emulated and Incompatible with Sonix 2.6.?

The first series of G4's were the last Macs to support OS 9. I used to have a G4 PowerBook that ran both OS X and 9 and I remember booting into OS 9 just to work with sonicWORX... Everything that can run OS 9 is fine to use with sonicWORX - in particular the 9600 because it had so many expansion slots. You can even use sonicWORX on OS X but I can't recommend it, as the playthrough latency is about one second.

I need this also for a Network/Filetransfer to the other Maschines. - Intel etc . At this Moment i have to burn , even for the Sonic2.6 Aktion , permanently Cd´r. MY Trash is full of burned Cdr with just a few kb on it .

We used to have a Linux server running SAMBA (smb), but you could probably also use Netatalk (http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/) to hook up your MacOS 9 machines to a server in order to exchange files.

oh , this is Very interesting , so we have two Boys who named Sprenger and programmed SonicWorx.

Actually that would have been very helpful back then... Thinking about it, I could still use a twin to do all the work for me that I can't (or don't want to) do...

Best wishes
+Stephan